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PostSubject: General Homework 8 - The Ban List Essay   Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:02 pm

For this homework assignment check out the most recent ban list and the changes made compared to the last one. I want one paragraph on a card you think should have been banned, limited, or semi-limited and why; and one on a card that shouldn't have been banned, limited, or semi-limited and why. Each of those two paragraphs are worth 50 CS each. You can do an additional one of each for 25 points extra CS each. A coherent thesis can earn 25 CS and a conclusion based on the every ban list change as well can also earn 25 CS. This makes this assignment out of 100 with a possible 100 extra credit. Please PM me your short essays.

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PostSubject: Re: General Homework 8 - The Ban List Essay   Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:12 am

In my opinion a card that should have been banned should have been banned was Evilswarm Bahamut , ok lets face it Bahamut is simply broken in evilswarm simply because it acts as a big eye for the price of a XYZ MATERIAL and ONE evilswarm monster in the hand not to mention if your in a game against dark world you can take one of there face-up lev 4 darks (very easy to do against dark worlds) and with a simple double summon or even a call of the haunted, summon another dark monster from your hand or grave and go into any generic rank 4 that requires 2 xyz materials AND any rank 4 that requires only darks not to mention that the only draw back is you lose 1 evilswarm in your hand but that dont really matter considering that kerykeion can donate from that! 


A card that should come of the ban list is PREMATURE BURIAL! ok so with the banning of reborn the only reviver that we got left isn't that great and you all know it as "call of the haunted"
Yes folks call is kinda one of the only cards left that summon from the grave but c'mon if you think about it premature burial isn't that bad sure in some decks losing 800 may be beneficial in there deck for example the very trolly self destruct button deck but in other decks losing 800 can be quite heavy especially late in the game and lets face it premature burial is kinda one of the signatures of yugioh I mean c'mon the king of games used it once or twise! and think about it we have very little staples left and we need a new holy trinity for our decks! dark hole cant work alone people!!!
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PostSubject: Re: General Homework 8 - The Ban List Essay   Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:13 am

BTW PREMATURE BURIAL SHOULD BE ONLY AT 1 AND 1 ONLY!!!
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PostSubject: Re: General Homework 8 - The Ban List Essay   Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:20 pm

So, i personally am not happy with the new banlist. the removal of e drags saves our souls from eternal damnation, but the loss of avarice hurts us all. stratos doesnt deserve to be banned, he was the driving force of the hero deck, and hero have never been very op. i've never had a problem with macro cosmos or dimensional fissure, so i have no idea why they are banned, nothing about them is op and it ruins my current deck. chaos sorcerer, why the hell is he limited, he isnt even good, as is destiny hero disk commander.

and i personally feel that more mermail/atlantean cards shouldve been banned, see as they are op as all living hell. the fact that dragoons is limited is good, though more shouldve been done aout the looming threat of murder. this banlist sucks and as a whole i would say the banlist is a piece of crap, amen.
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PostSubject: Re: General Homework 8 - The Ban List Essay   Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:30 pm

In all honesty i dont like neither d i hate the ban list. At first glance it was bs but now that i think about it, it is good. The lose of heavy means set 5 like crazy, but with the lose of solemn judgment, bottomless, evac, and macro, this means that the fear of those cards running rampent is gone. All the baby e-drags banned is good but still the deck isnt dead. Now the banning of stratos well its hard to explain why but now it makes hero playersto fidn other engines instead of depending on stratos in order to make a combo.
What shouldnt be banned was reborn, tbh it at one was good. It was good for last min combos you needed to win.What im trying to say is that the tcg brought upon themselves. We had such a dependences on the stapples to win, which leaves cards jsut as good as them left in the dust. The very fact that everyone in the tcg jsut bandwagons with what is the meta forced konami to make us be orginal for once. The ocg decks we dont play now still see play there, this banlist brigns back orginality in players minds to not be afraid to play a deck, Cause in all honesty people make fun of others for nto playing the meta now this banlist has made so many decks viable for everyone.This is the banlist we deserve


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PostSubject: Re: General Homework 8 - The Ban List Essay   Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:27 pm

I'm personally in favor of the new ban list. A lot of people are complaining about cards like Stratos or Shock Master or Heavy Storm being banned while cards like Dark Hole weren't, and here's why. When Dark Hole destroys your monsters, there's so many cards that work in order to bring them back from the grave; cards like Call of the Haunted or many other monster effects. The reason Heavy was banned is because when you lose your spells/traps, it's near impossible to get them back, which renders a lot of defensive plays useless. Losing your monsters to Dark Hole isn't as bad as losing your back row defense to Heavy Storm. A card that should STAY banned is definitely Monster Reborn; It let the opponent and yourself pull out such BS out of your rear ends without having to use your own strongest monster, OR you could use both. For example, you work so hard to get rid of a monster like Star Eater, only for the opponent to be like "Nope. I bring him back." And it just makes you want to pull out your hair. Or you could get out your staple monster, and the opponent could play Reborn and just take it for their own liking, without it even being necessary. It's just too easy to rip off your opponent and should stay banned as a consequence. A lot of Evilswarms should've also been banned or at least limited, such as Ophion, Bahamut, and Infestation Pandemic.

As for cards that shouldn't be banned, Shock Master and Premature Burial take the cake. First of all, why in previous years would they ban Premature Burial and not Monster Reborn, when Reborn is obviously the better card? I can understand the use of Burial's 800 LP cost to pull a Self-Destruct Button troll move, but other than that I don't see the point in banning it; it's basically Call of the Haunted but it costs 800 LP. Shock Master, oh man was that pointless. I can see it being limited, or semi-limited due to its effect, and believe me I've seen circumstances where Shock Master can ruin a deck in a single move, but there was no need to ban it. Nobody uses it in the first place; in fact I've only seen it used twice by someone other than myself, and even so, it's so easy to get rid of that there's no need for it to be banned at all. Compared to a lot of Lockdown methods, such as Black Garden Lockdown, Shock Master is an ant against a dinosaur, so to speak. There's just no need to ban those two cards where there are obviously worse counterparts to them.
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PostSubject: Re: General Homework 8 - The Ban List Essay   Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:04 pm

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I personally agree with the bahamut thing. It is ridiculous that evilswarms both have a ridiculous anti-meta such as ophion, but also a stealer like bahamut. Bahamut's cost realistically is almost nothing to steal a boss monster.

Premature Burial is actually one I do not agree with. Yes it only works for your own monsters, and yes it has a cost. Realistically Monster Reborn should have been more OP, but there is a reason that Premature Burial was banned whereas Monster Reborn wasn't. With Premature Burial you can keep popping it back into your own hand and reactivating it to spam the field. Many of the cards that are on the ban list don't quite make sense until you find out the reason, such as this one.

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I told you to pick one card and justify it. Stratos was replaced with E-Emergency Call. That way there wasn't any blowing up and the player couldn't get away with going -2 for a standard fusion instead of the usual -3. Macor Cosmos and Dimensional Fissure were cards that didn't hurt meta that extremely, but hurt many non meta cards thus their restrictions. I agree with chaos sorc that it needs to be upped (and probably BLS out). Destiny Hero Disk Commander is extremely OP if you think about it. There are 9001 cards that can special summon a monster from the grave, allowing a crap ton of draw power. It is essentially a pot of greed plus a defensive monster.

Mermail/Atlanteans were not hit enough, I will give you that. Dragoons and Deep Sea Diva hurt, but didn't do nearly enough as they should have. As a meme I posted says, they got second in a YCS Toronto, so they aren't as watered down as we thought after all (especially with tidal).

75 CS awarded for the main reason this was more of a rant than anything.

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I would have preferred if you elaborated on specific cards more so rather than giving mostly an overall thing. But because you make fair points I will still count them. 100 CS awarded.

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Evilswarms are an issue, but I really dont think mentioning all of them is necessary. Taking out one of any of those would be a great move. Premature Burial I said earlier and I will say again. I understand why you would think its funny that it was banned while monster reborn is at one, but the deal is premature burial can just keep being popped into the hand and reused to mass the field. Shock Master I too don't completely understand. It can take out one aspect of a deck, but thinking about it isn't yugioh SUPPOSED to be designed around using monsters (and their effects), spells, and traps? There is supposed to be a balance between the three and shockmaster could have had potential to enforce that balance. If only it had just a few hundred more attack or not require three monsters. 100 CS awarded

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